Santa Fe Comic Con

UPDATE: Interview with the promoter of the Santa Fe Comic Con Jim Burleson

The Santa Fe Comic Con has angered cosplayers after the convention posted a private conversation on their Facebook wall.

Cosplay Santa Fe

The convention followed up the post with an explanation that they receive many requests from cosplayers for a fully paid ride to the Santa Fe Comic Con including traveling expenses, and they were trying to support the local community instead. But the convention dug themselves an even bigger hole with the comment ‘entitled “hot chicks in almost no clothes.”

The posting of a private conversation in a nonchalant manner by the Santa Fe Comic Con has started a debate among cosplayers and convention goers.

Cosplayer Destiny Nickelsen expressed her thoughts regarding the lack of professionalism in the Santa Fe Comic Con post. She said the cosplayer was just making an inquiry and claimed the social media poster begrudged this person for doing so.

“This is hands down the most unprofessional post I’ve seen from an event. Wanna support locals? Cool. But don’t put down people for asking for something that’s the norm at almost every other con,” said Nickelsen.

Another Facebook poster claimed the posting to be “out of touch” with the cosplay community. The page continued to argue that they are “defending the cosplayers who take the art seriously.”

Long time cosplayer Abby Dark-Star took to her page expressing disapproval as well. She mentioned the lack of business savvy regarding how they responded to the inquiry.

UPDATE: Every Response By The Santa Fe Comic Con from the above post.

Jim of Santa Fe/ABQ Comic Cons demonstrates PR Fail 101

(Photo credit: Ron Rogers of Central Florida Photo Trekkerz)

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Alex
Alex

I agree with the host. These entitled ***** should shut the ***** up.

Kris Carter
Kris Carter

agreed.

Nick
Nick

> 20,000 likes

She’s talking as if she’s Nigri or something, I can see them flying out big names who will draw a lot of attention, but honestly, it’s not good business to fly out nobodies and pay $1,000 to put them up when it’s going to generate literally 0 additional revenue for your event.

Harsh, but true. In the UK, people with 50,000 likes are still paying their own flights and accommodation to do events, just so they can get their name out there some more. This is nothing more than someone who loves herself just a little too much.

Bedlamophonics
Bedlamophonics

This is a joke right? Asking for diva treatment, then getting told no. I dont care how many likes the cosplayer has, its just daft.

Strahd
Strahd

Micah Slawson is taking most offense to that. And she has never been to a show in New Mexico.

I agree 100% with the host. Cosplayers think they are entitled to everything. Keep them out of the cons!

Fang Reaper
Fang Reaper

Ok fine ban all cosplayers period from everywhere public specifically.

Camille
Camille

No lady. My friend down here in South Florida and one up in Oregon deserve that more than you do. You are the self-entitled cosplayer that my friend gets ticked off at.

JG
JG

Everybody dresses up at convention so why would you pay for somebody who dresses up to show up at a convention ridiculous….. unless you’re Yaya Han. Otherwise forget it… Most of these idiots who dress up call themselves cosplayers even gone as far as even charging for photo ops and autographs like the damn celebrities and the comic book artists. The convention scene is getting out of control and you have to draw a line. And stop catering to these wannabe’s.

Mikayla
Mikayla
The point is being lost here in the comments. Here is why Cosplayers are mad. Firstly the conversation posted should NOT have been posted. They are a con they are not mean to rant or rave about stuff. They should keep a level of professionalism at all times. Secondly they continued to act like they had a say in what makes a cosplayer when we as cosplayers don;t even have a say. Cosplay is cosplay no matter how little or how much skin is shown or if the costume is made or bought. Why? Because cosplay is meant for fun.… Read more »
Ricky
Ricky

Geez coming from some cosplayer who wants hand outs I’m not surprise of your anger. But truth be told you guys are nobodies. Nobody going to the convention to see you guys. That the honest truth. So I see nothing wrong on what the convention did. I laughed just as hard on her reaction.

Peren
Peren
She didn’t say she was a professional cosplayer…. But actually, as someone who goes to several conventions every year, I know literally thousands of people that go to conventions to see events that are put on by professional cosplayers or to buy prints or cosplay from them. For example, my favorite groups in Oregon go to all the local conventions and staff them, run panels, help out with chores like set up and take down, run booths, take photos with fans, attend panels run by other people, help out with the dances and the cosplay contest, all while trying to… Read more »
Mikayla
Mikayla
You lost the point once again. I’m not famous at all nor would I ever claim to be. I commented on the lack of tact the convention showed in posting a private conversation publicly. We as cosplayers are NOT entitled and I have not said that at all. In fact if you would reread calmly you would see I never once said anything nor alluded to that fact at all. I do not want handouts at all. I hate handouts. And I don’t know about you but I have been to enough cons to know that cosplay is just one… Read more »
Dan
Dan

You said you are cosplaying for fun, but you sound like you are taking it very seriously. You are not being persecuted, it is all for fun, lighten the $@&# up.

Rtf111
Rtf111

Most women are gold diggers especially the hot ones.

Bruce
Bruce

Cosplayers getting should have to pay to be there! They’re promoting their brand in their line of business. It’s not Hollywood and they’re not film and television stars! They make their money on posters internet work, and their fanbase. Better if they don’t come at all.

Charles
Charles

Mikayla, I appreciate you being the only person who can finish a sentence without insulting someone’s or being sexist.

There’s no way the wording they used is what the cosplayer asked. Beyond that, venting your business on your business page is incredibly childish and petty. I suspect this is a small con run by inexperienced promoters that won’t last.

Mikayla
Mikayla

I’m glad some people got my point. I fully see and understand what the con was talking about but my main upset was the lack of tact and sadly (as Jom had so said in his interview) I too am upset with the negative comments bashing cosplays as well as the comments against Jim that took things the wrong way.

Kevin Huxford
Kevin Huxford

I agree with Charles. I’d praise you in your own thread (as you deserve praise), but I don’t want to get the stupid on me from all the folks who miss the point. Well, that’s not fair. Perhaps they didn’t read the full IMGUR captured story, like I did. The idiocy of the con representative becomes crystal clear then.

Charles
Charles

This article seems to ignore the con page posting sexist comments. That is the reason cosplayers are angry.

http://m.imgur.com/a/NOPuP

Charles
Charles

The original comment doesn’t even address the name of gender of the original cosplayer. Attaching a picture of an unrelated woman to this article is rather dishonest and absolutely guides the way people discuss the situation.

Angelique
Angelique

Nobody is mad he said no. They are mad that he shamed any woman in a revealing costume. He shamed any cosplayer that doesn’t make a costume by hand. That is wrong, and extremely unprofessional. He then deleted it to cover his tracks cause he knows he done bad. Pretending you did nothing wrong DOES NOT help you, it makes you look way worse. You should have just said sorry and left it at that.

Aria
Aria
I agree with Mikayla but I also agree with everyone else here on other levels. It does not matter about the likes on Facebook. It doesn’t matter if your Youtube has so many subscribers or watches. If you are not a guest, voice actor, actor or high named in the industry, to ask to be supported and funded to go to a convention on the convention’s funds is ridiculous. What the con asked for in return is actually not a bad reply and allow them to make back some money this person would be requiring. And yes it could have… Read more »
Mikayla
Mikayla

That is the point I tried to make. (Although over time I have realized I too made the wrong assumptions based off the comments until listening to the review and actually hearing their side.)

Everything else you said is also very valid points I wish I had alluded to before but like so many others I took to mob mentality.

Matt Garrett
Matt Garrett

Somebody needs to get over herself. He told offered to give her a table if she was able to bring business to the site. She just wants something for nothing.

harold rush
harold rush

I think the pc police needs to quit or learn how to read and understand ps this is america i dont have to like what you say but it is your right and i have a problem with cosplayers when cons like wizard world uses up their press passes for cos players

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MIchael
MIchael

Went through the pictures. I saw no slut shamming. Only people cherry picking what they wanted to see from his posts.

Ella
Ella
I think it’s besides the point whether the cosplayer asked or not. The answer could’ve been ‘no’ and that’s that (imo she’s not self-entitled to just ask. If you never ask for anything, you’ll never get anything, right?) As I read the original posts at http://m.imgur.com/a/NOPuP (Charles, I borrowed your link), I think SFCC should have been more professional about it. I run most of the facebook page of an amateur theatre company I’m in and there’s no WAY I would reply to questions of any kind in that manner. Don’t reply or post with ‘I’, but use ‘we’ instead… Read more »
Vincent
Vincent

Just checked with him; the one posting all that crap is indeed the con head, Jim. Apparently he doesn’t understand what “professional” means.

G
G

The reality here is the convention organizers community has gotten sick of this diva cosplayer racket, and SFCC just happens to be one of the first events to publicly take a stand against this trend. Expect more events to ban the “cosplay guest” phenom, as they are NEVER worth their “social media reach.”

Dugan Heywood
Dugan Heywood

This shit is bananas. And also the number one reason I loathe complainers that take themselves too seriously. Go ahead and dis the con, but know that cons are the ENTIRE reason you wear a flipping costume dummies. Making money off of a comic convention as a cosplayer takes away from the artists: the comic book creators.

Robin Roberts
Regardless of your position you should always treat everyone with respect – especially if you are a promoter – There is no good way to place a value on the number of followers a female cosplayer may have – I have a very good friend with millions of followers but she knows that 95% of her followers are in other countries and there is no real way to monetize her following. For her it is actually detracting from her ability to reach the fans who could support her commercial efforts. I promote XCON in Myrtle Beach – our approach is… Read more »
whythis
whythis

Nobody is mad about rejecting the cosplayer wanting to be at guest. It is the owner’s CONDUCT AND BEHAVIOR that is the problem. Know the difference, commenters.

Aria
Aria
We do know the difference. Most anyway. But thank you for reiterating. It is because of his conduct. He is contradicting himself after I read the whole list of posts this is all about. And he could have replied in a better way. But I have to agree, I would have been livid at someone asking for a free ride without some compensation for the con itself. Especially if they happen to mention that they wouldn’t make any money without them being fully funded at the con. That is what is upsetting but not everyone is professional especially some convention… Read more »
Mark
Mark

Search Kickstarter for Jim burleson’s body paint cosplay calendar project, dude is a pig. It also came out today that he offered to comp a table for an artist if he did sexy cat woman badge art, apparently he didn’t like the artist’s rendition as he stopped communicating with the artist. And the body paint artist stated she and the models were never paid.

Ashley
Ashley

It’s funny that he’s talking about a brony cafe that never happened at any of his cons ever. He’s completely making up a group of people to blame for “starting” everything.

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Phantom
Phantom
Pffffft… Ha-ha! (Ala Nelson style) I’ve worked staff for conventions before. It’s one thing if you’re paying to have a guest of the convention show up, and even then, there’s a certain precedent to it depending on who it is, how in demand they are, or what schedule they have. Hence why major Sci-Fi film stars or voice actors might get full spread from the convention, (though admittedly, some do it simply because they like to.), and a popular webcomic artist might get some minor compensation. Outside of that? Crying because you’re a cosplay type and the Convention didn’t give… Read more »
M
M

Who gives a rip about people in dress up costumes? Snowflakes.

Jeremy
Jeremy
Why do people keep pointing out that “cosplayers are entitled” like that means anything? Just because convention organizers don’t agree with the economy that’s arisen out of relative fame and use of “professional” cosplayers, doesn’t mean it’s not a real thing. Also, “entitled” cosplayers wasn’t even the “beef” with the posting that the SFCC organizer, Jim, made. He was grossly unprofessional in every word. There was no “brony” group, no agitators, no provocateurs, only people saying first that he shouldn’t have posted a summary of the conversation, second, that his response in the first conversation was unprofessional and he should… Read more »
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